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Disc 1
- Global Man
- Movin' Out
- Mr. Francisco
- Mr. Francisco Leaves
- Runaway
- Molly Pitcher Service Area
- Brick City Lady
- Six Hours
- Seven
- Hollywood
- Le Chateau
- Runaway 2

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Disc 1
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)
- One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye (Continued)

1978 CTU rocks out!Review Date: 2008-01-19


One of Cecil Taylor's Best RecordingsReview Date: 2004-06-01
Basically, if you like the "Black Forest" recording, you will also likely enjoy "One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye." If you have a hard time getting into Taylor's denser work, this is one you can skip. This title, unbelievably, is currently out-of-print (which is insane for a recording that won Down Beat's 1981 Record of the Year), but it will be reissued eventually and it does live up to all the expectations one might have of it.
Great Music, Great Value Even Though It's An ImportReview Date: 2000-09-09
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Disc 1
- The Owner of the Riverbank
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)

more cecilReview Date: 2007-01-10
i love cecil taylor's playing. unfortunately, some of the groups with which he's recorded is a lot of noise, making for a poor setting for his playing.
i've never heard of the italian instabile band, but they complement cecil taylor's playing. my only complaint would be there isn't more cecil taylor.
taylor, influenced by duke ellington and thelonius monk, always plays ordered, structured, compositions. for an early recording that shows his development, listen to jazz advance by cecil taylor.
not where Taylor's imagination bears fruit or resourcesReview Date: 2004-11-24
The Orchestra here yes is well versed in avant-gardy stuff,but why simply just DROP IT in this improvisation, which is what happens most of the time, Taylor then simply is TAYLOR, he plays, and again I don't see where the two connect,no combusatible energy is created between the two frictions, just unresolved, uninteresting tensions that GO NOWHERE. i really would have liked simply to hear what Cecil was playing.
Also in a situation like this if it is a CONCERTO (that is a fascinating idea for Taylor, to subvert the original genre)whatever Taylor plays is suppose to work its way like algae,or via osmosis through the musical membranes in a pond to the other musical ideas to give them life,to nurture them; that didn't happen either. All this avant-gardy stuff extended techniques, atonal double-stops,Am Steg,Sul Flautato,tapping the bodies of instruments, tremoli, plucked strings is great if you find a powewrful context for it as Xenakis(Synphai(sp wrong)(piano concerto) and Nono(Fragmente, STille An Diotema, string quartet) and Stockhausen and Cage have done. Here it is like stuff floating in the water waiting for someone to make sense out of it, like a clipper ship went down and you walk on the seashore and see all the debris, artifacts of humanity that once had a purpose.
A few caveats (or how I learned to listen to this CD).Review Date: 2004-07-25
Having said that, I do want to add a few caveats. I came to this piece not only a fan of Cecil's but of the Italian Instabile Orchestra. I love their own work and their own musical ethos. If you want to get to know that group better and/or to hear them at their best, this is not the CD to go to. They are arguably the best collective of composers and soloists working in creative improv orchestra music today. They play beautifully on this CD but they never really solo and their own musical personalities are submerged completely in Taylor's. I want to commend them on that- this is something that the Italians seem so willing to do (obvious to anyone who knows Tiziano Tononi's great homage projects to Don Cherry and Rahsaan Roland Kirk). The members of the IIO, all of whom are leaders of their own projects, some of whom have appeared on hundreds of CDs, admire Taylor enormously and give themselves over to this project. weirdears is right- the liner notes by Marcello Lorrai are very helpful but weirdears leaves out one aspect of Taylor's method- for the most part he left the players to figure out what he wanted musically while putting the piece together. The impression one gets from the notes is that the IIO players found this to be frustrating, exhilirating, insane and perfect- it forced them out of their own methodologies both as individuals and a group. The concert on this CD took place in Ruva, Italy on Sept. 10th, 2000. The liner notes point out that a year and a half later at the Banlieues Blues Festival in Paris, Taylor and the IIO performed together again with a new score based on Taylor's trust and knowledge of what the IIO players had to offer him. That later piece is one I would love to hear as well.
My second caveat is about Taylor's playing. weirdears feels that Taylor is entering a new phase of his oeuvre. Probably so. But don't come to this record expecting Taylor's usual tsunami of piano sound. The piano is there but even as its most tumultuous, it is softer, more calm than is his norm. I am afraid that I assumed that some of that was Taylor getting older and maybe less able to play that enormously physical style that he created. Maybe it's both- Taylor is getting older and he is adapting his music. Or maybe the music is adapting him, as weirdears suggests. Make no mistake- I love what Taylor has wrought on this piece- it is just not what I expected. And maybe that's all my caveats amount to- that this CD is not what I hoped for- the IIO unleashed with Taylor at full throttle cavorting around the Italians. In any case, the members of the IIO, seemed to have loved the experience. Pino Minafra , one of the co-founders and leaders of the IIO (although as far as I can tell at least ten of the members can claim to be co-founders and leaders), wrote this of the meeting:
'The conjunction of "the great spirit of CECIL TAYLOR and the freest soul of the ITALIAN INSTABILE ORCHESTRA united in a unique CRY of LOVE, JOY and FREEDOM" generated the highest levels of musical expression ever reached by the Ochestra.' (I have changed the punctuation somewhat-GT).
My last caveat is that of the ending-it is hard to tell but it almost sounds as if the piece were cut off on the CD. The music just disappears. The CD is enhanced with a short video clip and a .pdf file of the Italian liner notes in the Italian. It would be sad if the music were shortened to include these bonuses. Hopefully, I am wrong about this.
TranscendentReview Date: 2004-07-28
recent Cecil Taylor CD I owned was recorded in 1990. I was also
suspicious because Cecil was playing with an orchestra. I feared
that this meant that Cecil's creativity would be hampered by a
large group of non-improvising players. I also feared that a
seventy year old Cecil would be unable to play with the same
power and fluency that he commanded when he was younger. I was
wrong on all counts.
The Owner of the River Band is equal in greatness to any music,
jazz or classical, that I have ever heard. It is jazz in that
all the players improvise. Due, however, to Cecil's demanding
standards and overall shaping of the material, this music is
ordered as rigorously as anything composed by Iannis Xenakis or
Eliot Carter. While Cecil's power and ferocity is as much in
evidence as it has ever been, it is balanced by quiet sections
of weird beauty. I say weird beauty because it sounds unlike
anything I have ever heard. Every time I play this album, I
encounter things that I didn't notice on previous hearings.
Instead of Cecil's technique decreasing because of age, it has
if anything increased. Cecil has always been known for playing
loud and fast. In this album, he plays soft and fast which is far more difficult. He also plays with a tonal beauty that I have never heard before; and during one part of the piece, he reaches into the piano and plucks its strings. It is true that he isn't as prominent as he is in other recordings. Here he is first among equals. He didn't intend to showcase himself in this
recording. As I mentioned earlier, this is an orchestral
composition; it is not a piano concerto. It is an album that I
will return to again and again. I would urge anyone who cares
about modern music, be it jazz or classical, to invest in this
album. There is nothing better to be found in either genre.
Orchestral CecilReview Date: 2004-07-19
Recorded in Italy in 2000, Owner of the Riverbank is one of Cecil Taylor's most ambitious scores. It was concieved for the Italian Instabile Orchestra, an ensemble of 18 improvising wind, string and brass instruments. Percussion includes not only standard trap set, but orchestral percussion including timpani. The liner notes describe the rehearsal process for the concert and represent probably the best description of Taylor's working processes that I've ever read. Taylor doesn't work from a traditional score, nor does he work from a traditional composer's ideas of authority and control. A score by Taylor is a blueprint over which members of the ensemble add their own personality and ideas. Yet, each moment of this work is dominated by Cecil's presence and signature ideas. From this vague and unstructured beginning the final product ends up sounding intricately structured, with suggestions of chord changes, predetermined scales, and even a number of almost Ellingtonian melodies welling up out of the general chaos.
Owner of the Riverbank also features a more extended use of orchestral color than is evident from many Taylor CDs. The opening of the work is extraordinary, featuring a delicate, chamber ensemble of strings, percussion and piano. Though Taylor is known for his thunderous percussive technique on his instrument, his playing also features moments of extreme delicacy and lyrical effusion. The piece builds from this extended opening, breaking into thunderous waves of sound and then gelling into broad melancholy melodies, particularly effective in the unison trumpet line about a third of the way through the piece.
Large
group Cecil can be bewildering for a first time listener. Even for those of us who are seasoned Taylor afficienados the large
group work on disc can be forbidding. Having recently seen one of Taylor's big band concerts at the Irridium, I realized that
the visual element in this music is extremely important. When attending a live concert of this music you can choose what lines
to follow by focusing your eyes on certain players and letting the rest of the sound wash over your ears....or you can open
your focus to the caterwaul. Either way, a Taylor performance is interactive and the visual is an important tool
to make
this journey. Fortunately, this CD includes a short video segment that helps achieve at least a little of this effect. From
what is evident in the video, the live performance must have been a truly spectacular experience.
All in all, this is one of the best Cecil Taylor releases of the past ten years, and along with Taylor's duo with Mat Manieri, recently released on Bridge records, is the harbinger of a major new period in the composer's development. (This is also confirmed by several recent live performances Cecil has given around New York and environs.) This should not be your first Cecil album. The work from 60s on Blue Note is much better as an introduction to the Taylor style. But this is a wonderful disc for CT fans, and a source of endless fascination. Be prepared to spend a lot of time on this disc. It's worth it.

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Disc 1
- The Owner of the Riverbank
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)
- The Owner of the Riverbank (Continued)

more cecilReview Date: 2007-01-10
i love cecil taylor's playing. unfortunately, some of the groups with which he's recorded is a lot of noise, making for a poor setting for his playing.
i've never heard of the italian instabile band, but they complement cecil taylor's playing. my only complaint would be there isn't more cecil taylor.
taylor, influenced by duke ellington and thelonius monk, always plays ordered, structured, compositions. for an early recording that shows his development, listen to jazz advance by cecil taylor.
not where Taylor's imagination bears fruit or resourcesReview Date: 2004-11-24
The Orchestra here yes is well versed in avant-gardy stuff,but why simply just DROP IT in this improvisation, which is what happens most of the time, Taylor then simply is TAYLOR, he plays, and again I don't see where the two connect,no combusatible energy is created between the two frictions, just unresolved, uninteresting tensions that GO NOWHERE. i really would have liked simply to hear what Cecil was playing.
Also in a situation like this if it is a CONCERTO (that is a fascinating idea for Taylor, to subvert the original genre)whatever Taylor plays is suppose to work its way like algae,or via osmosis through the musical membranes in a pond to the other musical ideas to give them life,to nurture them; that didn't happen either. All this avant-gardy stuff extended techniques, atonal double-stops,Am Steg,Sul Flautato,tapping the bodies of instruments, tremoli, plucked strings is great if you find a powewrful context for it as Xenakis(Synphai(sp wrong)(piano concerto) and Nono(Fragmente, STille An Diotema, string quartet) and Stockhausen and Cage have done. Here it is like stuff floating in the water waiting for someone to make sense out of it, like a clipper ship went down and you walk on the seashore and see all the debris, artifacts of humanity that once had a purpose.
A few caveats (or how I learned to listen to this CD).Review Date: 2004-07-25
Having said that, I do want to add a few caveats. I came to this piece not only a fan of Cecil's but of the Italian Instabile Orchestra. I love their own work and their own musical ethos. If you want to get to know that group better and/or to hear them at their best, this is not the CD to go to. They are arguably the best collective of composers and soloists working in creative improv orchestra music today. They play beautifully on this CD but they never really solo and their own musical personalities are submerged completely in Taylor's. I want to commend them on that- this is something that the Italians seem so willing to do (obvious to anyone who knows Tiziano Tononi's great homage projects to Don Cherry and Rahsaan Roland Kirk). The members of the IIO, all of whom are leaders of their own projects, some of whom have appeared on hundreds of CDs, admire Taylor enormously and give themselves over to this project. weirdears is right- the liner notes by Marcello Lorrai are very helpful but weirdears leaves out one aspect of Taylor's method- for the most part he left the players to figure out what he wanted musically while putting the piece together. The impression one gets from the notes is that the IIO players found this to be frustrating, exhilirating, insane and perfect- it forced them out of their own methodologies both as individuals and a group. The concert on this CD took place in Ruva, Italy on Sept. 10th, 2000. The liner notes point out that a year and a half later at the Banlieues Blues Festival in Paris, Taylor and the IIO performed together again with a new score based on Taylor's trust and knowledge of what the IIO players had to offer him. That later piece is one I would love to hear as well.
My second caveat is about Taylor's playing. weirdears feels that Taylor is entering a new phase of his oeuvre. Probably so. But don't come to this record expecting Taylor's usual tsunami of piano sound. The piano is there but even as its most tumultuous, it is softer, more calm than is his norm. I am afraid that I assumed that some of that was Taylor getting older and maybe less able to play that enormously physical style that he created. Maybe it's both- Taylor is getting older and he is adapting his music. Or maybe the music is adapting him, as weirdears suggests. Make no mistake- I love what Taylor has wrought on this piece- it is just not what I expected. And maybe that's all my caveats amount to- that this CD is not what I hoped for- the IIO unleashed with Taylor at full throttle cavorting around the Italians. In any case, the members of the IIO, seemed to have loved the experience. Pino Minafra , one of the co-founders and leaders of the IIO (although as far as I can tell at least ten of the members can claim to be co-founders and leaders), wrote this of the meeting:
'The conjunction of "the great spirit of CECIL TAYLOR and the freest soul of the ITALIAN INSTABILE ORCHESTRA united in a unique CRY of LOVE, JOY and FREEDOM" generated the highest levels of musical expression ever reached by the Ochestra.' (I have changed the punctuation somewhat-GT).
My last caveat is that of the ending-it is hard to tell but it almost sounds as if the piece were cut off on the CD. The music just disappears. The CD is enhanced with a short video clip and a .pdf file of the Italian liner notes in the Italian. It would be sad if the music were shortened to include these bonuses. Hopefully, I am wrong about this.
TranscendentReview Date: 2004-07-28
recent Cecil Taylor CD I owned was recorded in 1990. I was also
suspicious because Cecil was playing with an orchestra. I feared
that this meant that Cecil's creativity would be hampered by a
large group of non-improvising players. I also feared that a
seventy year old Cecil would be unable to play with the same
power and fluency that he commanded when he was younger. I was
wrong on all counts.
The Owner of the River Band is equal in greatness to any music,
jazz or classical, that I have ever heard. It is jazz in that
all the players improvise. Due, however, to Cecil's demanding
standards and overall shaping of the material, this music is
ordered as rigorously as anything composed by Iannis Xenakis or
Eliot Carter. While Cecil's power and ferocity is as much in
evidence as it has ever been, it is balanced by quiet sections
of weird beauty. I say weird beauty because it sounds unlike
anything I have ever heard. Every time I play this album, I
encounter things that I didn't notice on previous hearings.
Instead of Cecil's technique decreasing because of age, it has
if anything increased. Cecil has always been known for playing
loud and fast. In this album, he plays soft and fast which is far more difficult. He also plays with a tonal beauty that I have never heard before; and during one part of the piece, he reaches into the piano and plucks its strings. It is true that he isn't as prominent as he is in other recordings. Here he is first among equals. He didn't intend to showcase himself in this
recording. As I mentioned earlier, this is an orchestral
composition; it is not a piano concerto. It is an album that I
will return to again and again. I would urge anyone who cares
about modern music, be it jazz or classical, to invest in this
album. There is nothing better to be found in either genre.
Orchestral CecilReview Date: 2004-07-19
Recorded in Italy in 2000, Owner of the Riverbank is one of Cecil Taylor's most ambitious scores. It was concieved for the Italian Instabile Orchestra, an ensemble of 18 improvising wind, string and brass instruments. Percussion includes not only standard trap set, but orchestral percussion including timpani. The liner notes describe the rehearsal process for the concert and represent probably the best description of Taylor's working processes that I've ever read. Taylor doesn't work from a traditional score, nor does he work from a traditional composer's ideas of authority and control. A score by Taylor is a blueprint over which members of the ensemble add their own personality and ideas. Yet, each moment of this work is dominated by Cecil's presence and signature ideas. From this vague and unstructured beginning the final product ends up sounding intricately structured, with suggestions of chord changes, predetermined scales, and even a number of almost Ellingtonian melodies welling up out of the general chaos.
Owner of the Riverbank also features a more extended use of orchestral color than is evident from many Taylor CDs. The opening of the work is extraordinary, featuring a delicate, chamber ensemble of strings, percussion and piano. Though Taylor is known for his thunderous percussive technique on his instrument, his playing also features moments of extreme delicacy and lyrical effusion. The piece builds from this extended opening, breaking into thunderous waves of sound and then gelling into broad melancholy melodies, particularly effective in the unison trumpet line about a third of the way through the piece.
Large
group Cecil can be bewildering for a first time listener. Even for those of us who are seasoned Taylor afficienados the large
group work on disc can be forbidding. Having recently seen one of Taylor's big band concerts at the Irridium, I realized that
the visual element in this music is extremely important. When attending a live concert of this music you can choose what lines
to follow by focusing your eyes on certain players and letting the rest of the sound wash over your ears....or you can open
your focus to the caterwaul. Either way, a Taylor performance is interactive and the visual is an important tool
to make
this journey. Fortunately, this CD includes a short video segment that helps achieve at least a little of this effect. From
what is evident in the video, the live performance must have been a truly spectacular experience.
All in all, this is one of the best Cecil Taylor releases of the past ten years, and along with Taylor's duo with Mat Manieri, recently released on Bridge records, is the harbinger of a major new period in the composer's development. (This is also confirmed by several recent live performances Cecil has given around New York and environs.) This should not be your first Cecil album. The work from 60s on Blue Note is much better as an introduction to the Taylor style. But this is a wonderful disc for CT fans, and a source of endless fascination. Be prepared to spend a lot of time on this disc. It's worth it.
Disc 1
- Choral of Voice (Elesion)
- Lono
- Asapk in Ame
- Indent

Cecil Taylor and Piano...Review Date: 2006-03-31

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Disc 1
- Choral of Voice (Elesion)
- Lono
- Asapk in Ame
- Indent

Cecil Taylor and Piano...Review Date: 2006-03-31


Disc 1
- Choral Of Voice ( Elesion)
- Lono
- Asapk In Ame
- 1/2 Of First Layer 2nd 1/2 Of First Layer
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It turns out there was no reason for me to be wary about a larger ensemble group. On disc 1 of this special edition Hatology re-release, there are essentially no passages of full sextet. Instead, the first short track is an explorative duet with Lyons and Malik, the second has Ameen and Sirone (mostly arco after a brief start at pizacatto) dialoguing while the third is a Jackson drum solo. The liner notes say this was CT's tour strategy of generating a "certain type of intensity" before he took the stage. Certainly there's some anticipation, and it is fully satisfied with tracks 4 and 5, which are essentially just one 50-minute tune. And what a powerhouse tune it is... the horns are there briefly in the beginning to state a theme, but the rest has CT going at it with Jackson, Sirone, and Ameen sans horns and it's some of the very best trio and quartet music I've heard from CT and I've heard a lot. CT is in the best form of his career as he displays his usual virtuouso's palette of madcap runs and cascading power chords. I'm a particular fan of Jackson here -- he's certainly cut his teeth and he's not content with just embellishing -- he duels with reckless abandon, but doesn't clash with CT. Sirone's bass is amply miked throughout, making for a nice upfront bass sound, and the whole concert is recorded and mixed very cleanly. What else can I say but that the music rocks -- CT is aggressive and at his best, and Jackson really adds to the intensity.
Disc 2 essentially picks right up where the 70+ minutes of disc 1 left off, with the first 15 minutes of track 1 continuing with trio and quartet work. About half way though, the horns join in for some relaxed explorations where they're playing on top of each other -- honestly, this is the kind of CTU playing that I don't particularly care for. But it's short-lived and soon Lyons yields to Malik as he takes the first extended solo -- he's got a bracing, brassy, and almost vibrato tone and his solo matches the aggression on disc 1. Track 2 is then a showcase for Jimmy Lyons and he takes off on a characteristic extended solo backed by the quartet. I must say I'm not a huge Lyons fan, but his blowing here is pretty damn good and later Ameen, CT, and Jackson match his intensity for some dense, multi-layered mayhem. Lyons' solo ends with applause from the crowd, and track 3 starts with CT displaying his typical rage and fury in solo without the group. Then drums (Jackson now more restrained) and bass join in for trio music, and then at 20 minutes, Ameen enters with some classical sounding lines. He then takes the lead solo with the quartet before things finally mellow out and come to a close.
And so, any reservations I had about the album were completely unfounded and in fact this may be Cecil's greatest concert on disc. CT is at the height of his powers and instrumentation-wise there are all kinds of variations, with minimal overlap of sax and trumpet, which is good news to me. The ensemble playing is similar then to "Dark Unto Themselves," but there is so much more here too -- CT soloing, CT with a power-trio, Ameen on strings, Jackson's fierce battery, and the fine solos by Malik and Lyons on disc 2. The only thing missing is any poetry, chanting, or vocalisms -- good riddance for some, no doubt. For me, having amassed some 50 CT discs, I thought I'd heard it all, but this is simply awesome.