Ornette Coleman Music
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Disc 1
- Invisible
- The Blessing
- Jayne
- Chippie
- The Disguise
- Angel Voice
- Alpha
- When Will the Blues Leave?
- The Sphinx

classic embryonic Ornette--leave Walter alone!Review Date: 2005-12-17
Tense debutReview Date: 2005-09-02
A lot of this probably has to do with the band-- while Coleman (playing his trademark white plastic alto sax) is accompanied by his then-usual frontline partner Don Cherry on trumpet, his rhythm section-- pianist Walter Norris, bassist Don Payne, and drummer Billy Higgins-- play within conventional constraints. Higgins' place in this is actually quite interesting to hear, given how advanced his drumming would be on that Atlantic debut. As a result of this conventional rhythm section performance, there are implied changes on the pieces. Coleman plays far more conventionally than he usually does, and when he does venture into his style of bending the notes or trying to force the rhythm section to follow him (as on "Jayne"), they don't. Net result-- Coleman introduces tension when playing the way that makes sense to him, and as a leader, he (and to a lesser extent, Cherry) is in total opposition to the rest of the band.
The music itself is decent enough-- most of the pieces are blues forms of some sort or another, somewhat advanced at times, but by and large pretty straightforward, and its pleasant enough, but similar to Cecil Taylor's early records, there's little indication of what advancements he'd make in the very near future. Coleman has indicated in books that the songs on here were written several years beforehand-- if this is the case, it explains their relative unadvanced state. Still, it's a quite listenable record, and it's a decent album, but it's better as a historical document than anything else. Interested parties in Coleman's music are encouraged to check out his work on Atlantic first (in particular "The Shape of Jazz to Come") before coming to look for this album.
A breakthrough discReview Date: 2002-03-19
Reviewers often blame the comparative conservatism of the music here on the presence of Walter Norris, a fine bop pianist but hardly a necessary presence given Coleman's later preference for pianoless ensembles. (Norris is reported in Litweiler's bio of Coleman as having been rather mystified by Coleman & Cherry's frequently ignoring the chord changes they'd decided on for the tunes during their improvisations.) But to criticize Norris is to miss the point: Coleman's music here is much more closely tied to bop orthodoxy than it would be in the following years. Tunes like "Chippie" & "Angel Voice" are straightahead "I Got Rhythm" variants, despite their nicely individual melodies ("Angel Voice" for instance has a calypso tinge to its A section). Even more surprising, "Jayne" turns out to be a variation on "Out of Nowhere", a Parker favourite. This last instance is certainly enough to scotch the idea that Coleman was ignoring standard 32-bar structures or chord changes.
Anyway, why need we judge the music on how "advanced" it is? Sure, Ornette never sounded like this again, but it's still a solid, grooving jazz date. & it's got some of Coleman's greatest tunes on it--"The Blessing", "Invisible", "Chippie", "The Sphynx", "When Will the Blues Leave?"...all classics. The album is mostly uptempo swingers, carried along by Billy Higgins' springy drumming--it's a delight to listen to.
Joyous, early OrnetteReview Date: 2000-08-30
This is a severely underrated albumReview Date: 2000-10-05

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Disc 1
- Invisible
- The Blessing
- Jayne
- Chippie
- The Disguise
- Angel Voice
- Alpha
- When Will the Blues Leave?
- The Sphinx

classic embryonic Ornette--leave Walter alone!Review Date: 2005-12-17
Tense debutReview Date: 2005-09-02
A lot of this probably has to do with the band-- while Coleman (playing his trademark white plastic alto sax) is accompanied by his then-usual frontline partner Don Cherry on trumpet, his rhythm section-- pianist Walter Norris, bassist Don Payne, and drummer Billy Higgins-- play within conventional constraints. Higgins' place in this is actually quite interesting to hear, given how advanced his drumming would be on that Atlantic debut. As a result of this conventional rhythm section performance, there are implied changes on the pieces. Coleman plays far more conventionally than he usually does, and when he does venture into his style of bending the notes or trying to force the rhythm section to follow him (as on "Jayne"), they don't. Net result-- Coleman introduces tension when playing the way that makes sense to him, and as a leader, he (and to a lesser extent, Cherry) is in total opposition to the rest of the band.
The music itself is decent enough-- most of the pieces are blues forms of some sort or another, somewhat advanced at times, but by and large pretty straightforward, and its pleasant enough, but similar to Cecil Taylor's early records, there's little indication of what advancements he'd make in the very near future. Coleman has indicated in books that the songs on here were written several years beforehand-- if this is the case, it explains their relative unadvanced state. Still, it's a quite listenable record, and it's a decent album, but it's better as a historical document than anything else. Interested parties in Coleman's music are encouraged to check out his work on Atlantic first (in particular "The Shape of Jazz to Come") before coming to look for this album.
A breakthrough discReview Date: 2002-03-19
Reviewers often blame the comparative conservatism of the music here on the presence of Walter Norris, a fine bop pianist but hardly a necessary presence given Coleman's later preference for pianoless ensembles. (Norris is reported in Litweiler's bio of Coleman as having been rather mystified by Coleman & Cherry's frequently ignoring the chord changes they'd decided on for the tunes during their improvisations.) But to criticize Norris is to miss the point: Coleman's music here is much more closely tied to bop orthodoxy than it would be in the following years. Tunes like "Chippie" & "Angel Voice" are straightahead "I Got Rhythm" variants, despite their nicely individual melodies ("Angel Voice" for instance has a calypso tinge to its A section). Even more surprising, "Jayne" turns out to be a variation on "Out of Nowhere", a Parker favourite. This last instance is certainly enough to scotch the idea that Coleman was ignoring standard 32-bar structures or chord changes.
Anyway, why need we judge the music on how "advanced" it is? Sure, Ornette never sounded like this again, but it's still a solid, grooving jazz date. & it's got some of Coleman's greatest tunes on it--"The Blessing", "Invisible", "Chippie", "The Sphynx", "When Will the Blues Leave?"...all classics. The album is mostly uptempo swingers, carried along by Billy Higgins' springy drumming--it's a delight to listen to.
Joyous, early OrnetteReview Date: 2000-08-30
This is a severely underrated albumReview Date: 2000-10-05
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Disc 1
- Song X
- Mob Job
- Endangered Species
- Video Games
- Kathelin Gray
- Trigonometry
- Song X Duo
- Long Time No See

A great album, one of the great jazz albumsReview Date: 2008-01-11
It took him several years to break cover, but he did so on this fabulously disorienting and hectic session with one of his great heroes, Ornette Coleman. It may have helped that Coleman hadn't made a classic record in quite a while, but something about Metheny must have galvanised him - just as something about Coleman's steely integrity and determination to go his own way must have prompted Metheny to up his game. With a rhythm section consisting of longtime Coleman bass player Charlie Haden plus the great Jack DeJohnette and the somewhat less celebrated Denardo Coleman (Ornette's son) on drums, all five players kick up a rare old storm.
Some of the compositions have already become classics - the title track and 'Mob Job', for example. The extended version of this album contains some even more deranged cuts that were left off the original.
I started listening to jazz as a teenager in the mid-1980s, and this was the only contemporary record I heard that had anything of the fire and invention of the jazz I really loved, which was bebop. It still sounds fresh, blazing out of the stereo with punkish energy. I particularly like the fact that a large proportion of Metheny's fans can't listen to this thing at all. It just goes to show that not everyone who loves jazz loves genuinely creative and searching music.
Metheny would go on to do two things very dear to my heart: in the early 90s he recorded a solo album of manic noise guitar, 'zero tolerance for silence', which even fans of the genre don't like (although Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth and I are at least two big fans), and then at the end of the century he publicly tore a furious strip off Kenny G for defacing Louis Armstrong's 'What A Wonderful World' with his nightmarish caterwauling. Rock on, Pat - the more restless you get, the better we like you.
My my we are all so opinionated.Review Date: 2005-10-14
Ornette of course has his own ideas about what music should be. There is no denying that he's a thinker. On the other hand Miles Davis said "Anyone who listens to this can see he's all f*****d up." Miles was no slouch when it came to making 'outside' music. I think you have to take his comments into consideration. In addition Ornette imitated Miles in that he started working with an electric band with two basses and two drummers after Miles had a similar arrangement.
And Metheny is a better musician than given credit. It's worth listening to just for that. He's one of those guys who seems to be progressing at least instead of stagnating.
The really experimental stuff is intense, while the less experimental is surprisingly straight forward.
Suffice it to say it's not for very many people. It's highly intellectual music. It's not my cup of tea. I think Duke Ellington was correct in saying "It don't mean a thing if it don't swing." I do see the need for this type of, what I would call over intellectual music, and it's definitely worth a listen just to get your ears stretched, but it's not what I listen to very often.
If you think about it Ornette didn't really change music very much. Very few musicians have been influenced by his ideas. They respect his ideas but don't use them where as John Cage, or Varese's ideas are now totally a part of rock music. There are some good reasons for that. I'm waiting for the microtonalists myself. That's where I see the future.
File Under "C" for ColemanReview Date: 2005-08-26
It's obvious that this is an Ornette album with Metheny just another cog in the wheel. I'm not convinced that Metheny was even the right choice for guitarist on this album and would be interested to hear what Bill Frisell or Marc Ribot would have sounded like in his place. The only songs where Metheny sounds like Metheny is on the two songs he co-wrote with Ornette; Kathelin Gray and Trigonometry. They're both beautifully written and played, with very tasteful interplay between the players. That being said, I like this album better than any other Metheny album that I've heard and better than the three times I saw Metheny in concert.
If you appreciate great ensemble playing with a supergroup of musicians, playing challenging compositions than this CD is for you. If you're familiar with Coleman's previous stuff, you won't be surprised at all but if you're only familiar with Pat Metheny's relatively laid back compositional style than be prepared for a shock.
Great album all in all.
X-out Song XReview Date: 2005-05-19
I thought that the birth of Kenny G. as a jazz icon was the lowest point in jazz's history...I was wrong... Song X is rock bottom.What happens when a drummer, guitarist, and saxophonist all solo at once? Song X a.k.a. crap.
I finally get it . . .Review Date: 2005-06-27
Maybe it's just that my ears have, over the past decade, opened up a little. That's part of it, I think. And I do remember listening to it this time around with no particular expectations. A few observations. I'm entirely taken by Coleman's violin playing on "Mob Job," so much so that I'd like to have heard more of it represented here. I don't think I'd like a whole disc of it, and I know he doesn't play the violin "correctly," but he has a unique way of approaching it, achieves some delicious sonorities, and interacts with Metheny and bandmates very interestingly. I was also surprised by the quieter, more lyrical selection, "Kathelin Gray" (a mournful, elegiac ballad), and parts of "Mob Job."
I also think the inclusion of Denardo is more than nepotism. He adds a kind of percussive thrust and coloration--granted, a little dated--that Coleman pere and Metheny obviously wanted, and to these ears, at least, he admirably acquits himself. Haden and DeJohnette are at the absolute top of their game and come across as absolutely comfortable in this, for the most part, free-jazz setting.
There is much to recommend this music to anyone used to more outré jazz--the sly blues/field holler/gospel sensibility, the unique aural signature, snatches of beauty emerging from what initially sounds like aural chaos, the last half of "Endangered Species" with its train motif, weirdo Denardo contributions, and sheer high energy, and some of Coleman's most inspired playing. One should also acknowledge the adventurous spirit demonstrated by Metheny, who risked alienating his fan base (mission accomplished, if the reviews posted at this site are typical) by setting aside his hugely popular regular jazz gig to play with one of his heroes. And it's not as if Metheny has never done this kind of thing before; the title cut to Off Ramp shares a similar approach to what's going on here.
Certainly not for everybody, but he who has an ear, let him hear.

Disc 1
- Police People
- The Good Life
- Word from Bird
- Compute
- The Veil
- Song X
- Mob Job
- Endangered Species
- Video Games
- Kathelin Gray
- Trigonometry
- Song X Duo
- Long Time No See

Statement barely overshadows substance Review Date: 2008-10-30
Better than the original releaseReview Date: 2006-07-30
I found some of the tunes rather catchy (suprising for an Ornette album) and some of them are kind of smooth and emotional. All in all this is A+ material, unique and original. Sometimes it sounds kind of like East Indian improvisation, or maybe some African influence. I don't know if it was intended that way or not. Pairing Ornette and Metheny together was a genius idea, I think that they complement each other really well. There are also some electonic percussion things on, which at the time was probably a somewhat new idea. It kind of reminds me of "Futureman" from Bela Fleck.
Ornette certainly has his own sound, that's for sure. This album is not for everyone, as it takes an open ear to listen to it.
Has to be one of the best releases in the 80's Review Date: 2006-11-04
XX Has It Been 20 Years All Ready?Review Date: 2006-09-16
If you have SONG X,but don't have SONG XX,then you DON'T have SONG X.
Thank you Pat for putting this exiting,new,& FRESH cd out. The 6 NEW TUNES (to me) are so great,they really complete the session.
There is an AIR,a kind of SPACE,a stirring kind of ROOM SOUND to this recording that makes you feel like your lucky enough to be right there at POWER STATION with them.
THIS CD IS INCREDABLE,I'M FREAKING OUT!!!!!
Rich, exciting. but NOT BACKGROUND MUSIC. Got to listen.Review Date: 2006-08-15
Although Ornetted Coleman's music appears to be an "acquired taste". I feel that, like Ligeti, Messiaen or Lutoslawski, the taste is worth acquiring for the reward it returns. This is a good example. It may take the usual Metheny fan out of his/her comfort zone for a bit, but if you hang in, that comfort zone might expand quickly into an energy zone. The unusual Metheny fan knows that Pat Metheny does occasionally stretch out like this. He does it well, too.
For the usual Coleman fan: If you enjoyed "Dancing In Your Head" and "Beauty Is a Rare Thing", this one may just lift you out of yourself for a while. But please - try to listen undistracted.


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Disc 1
- Police People
- All of Us
- Good Life
- Word From Bird
- Compute
- Veil
- Song X
- Mob Job
- Endangered Species
- Video Games
- Kathelin Gray
- Trigonometry
- Song X Duo
- Long Time No See

Statement barely overshadows substance Review Date: 2008-10-30
Better than the original releaseReview Date: 2006-07-30
I found some of the tunes rather catchy (suprising for an Ornette album) and some of them are kind of smooth and emotional. All in all this is A+ material, unique and original. Sometimes it sounds kind of like East Indian improvisation, or maybe some African influence. I don't know if it was intended that way or not. Pairing Ornette and Metheny together was a genius idea, I think that they complement each other really well. There are also some electonic percussion things on, which at the time was probably a somewhat new idea. It kind of reminds me of "Futureman" from Bela Fleck.
Ornette certainly has his own sound, that's for sure. This album is not for everyone, as it takes an open ear to listen to it.
Has to be one of the best releases in the 80's Review Date: 2006-11-04
XX Has It Been 20 Years All Ready?Review Date: 2006-09-16
If you have SONG X,but don't have SONG XX,then you DON'T have SONG X.
Thank you Pat for putting this exiting,new,& FRESH cd out. The 6 NEW TUNES (to me) are so great,they really complete the session.
There is an AIR,a kind of SPACE,a stirring kind of ROOM SOUND to this recording that makes you feel like your lucky enough to be right there at POWER STATION with them.
THIS CD IS INCREDABLE,I'M FREAKING OUT!!!!!
Rich, exciting. but NOT BACKGROUND MUSIC. Got to listen.Review Date: 2006-08-15
Although Ornetted Coleman's music appears to be an "acquired taste". I feel that, like Ligeti, Messiaen or Lutoslawski, the taste is worth acquiring for the reward it returns. This is a good example. It may take the usual Metheny fan out of his/her comfort zone for a bit, but if you hang in, that comfort zone might expand quickly into an energy zone. The unusual Metheny fan knows that Pat Metheny does occasionally stretch out like this. He does it well, too.
For the usual Coleman fan: If you enjoyed "Dancing In Your Head" and "Beauty Is a Rare Thing", this one may just lift you out of yourself for a while. But please - try to listen undistracted.
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Disc 1
- Song X
- Mob Job
- Endangered Species
- Video Games
- Kathelin Gray
- Trigonometry
- Song X Duo
- Long Time No See

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Deeply recommended avant-garde soundsReview Date: 2006-04-25

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Disc 1
- Jordan (after introducing the band members)
- Sleep Talking
- Turnaround
- Matador
- Waiting for You
- Call to Duty
- Once Only
- SONGX

Exciting but apart from 3 cuts it's far from top rate Ornette Review Date: 2007-10-05
2. The music is typically Ornette: as he's said in the past, in a sense he's been playing the same tune most of his career. In this live performance he continues the tradition, re-using his elegant licks: a type of bebop as a previous reviewer stated. Sure it may seem very old-fashioned by now but the soulful execution is usually timeless. (Mozart used an already well established musical language but trancended any need to develop it.)
There's very little of Coleman's idiosyncratic trumpet and violin work which after my 30 years as an Ornette fan I find generally more exciting than his sax playing. (For example the cut Falling Star from a live concert in Copenhagen 1965 has some delicious offerings of both: see "all my reviews".)
3. With regard to the drumset work by Denardo, as well as being poorly recorded it tends to a busy, unrelenting style often with simplistic cymbal sizzle overkill which for me is often quite irritating. If only he could appreciate silence and more of a sense of space - in some of the more reflective passages I longed for a total absence of percussion. Still, as Coleman often seems to favor what some people have unflatteringly called "scrambled egg music", the drumset style and arrangements may be at Coleman's direction.
The good:
5 stars for the beautiful rendition of "Sleep Talking" which makes this CD a must have for my collection of about 30 albums under the Ornette name.
5 stars for the elegantly arranged "Waiting for You" which also has tasty individual performances, particularly the arco bass work and Coleman's sax work.
5 stars for "Once Only", again an elegant arrangement which tells a story over time.
Overall, for those new to Ornette: there are much better Coleman albums available with superior drumming and groove. (E.g. Ornette! recorded Jan 1961 with drumming to die for by Ed Blackwell, very tasty bass playing from the brilliant Scott LeFaro and some excellent work by Don Cherry on pocket trumpet.)
Pulitzer Prize Winning Album!Review Date: 2007-04-17
Not a Coleman fan after all.Review Date: 2007-02-01
Switching InstrumentsReview Date: 2007-02-17
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Just BeautifulReview Date: 2006-12-02
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