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Scott Joplin's Rag Time
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- Rag Time Dance
- Maple Leaf Rag
- Weeping Willow
- The Cascades
- The Easy Winners
- Peacherine Rag
- Original Rags
- Lily Queen
- Paragon Rag
- Solace
- Magnetic Rag
- Swipesy Cake Walk
- Gladiolus Rag
Scott Joplin's Treemonisha
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Scott Joplin's Treemonisha (Original Cast Recording)
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Scott Joplin's Treemonisha [Original Cast Recording]
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- Act One: No. 1 Overture
- Act One: No. 2 The Bag of Luck
- Act One: No. 3 The Corn Huskers
- Act One: No. 4 We're Goin' Around
- Act One: No. 5 The Wreath
- Act One: No. 6 The Sacred Tree
- Act One: No. 7 Surprised
- Act One: No. 8 Treemonisha's Bringing Up
- Act One: No. 9 Good Advice
- Act One: No. 10 Confusion
- Act Two: No. 11 Superstition
- Act Two: No. 12 Treemonisha in Peril
- Act Two: No. 13 Frolic of the Bears
- Act Two: No. 14 The Wasp Nest
- Act Two: No. 15 The Rescue
- Act Two: No. 16 We Will Rest Awhile
- Act Two: No. 17 Going Home
- Act Two: No. 18 Aunt Dinah Has Blowed the Horn
- Act Three: No. 19 Prelude
- Act Three: No. 20 I Want to See My Child
- Act Three: No. 21 Treemonisha's Return
- Act Three: No. 22 Wrong is Never Right
- Act Three: No. 23 Abuse
- Act Three: No. 24 When Villains Ramble Far and Near
- Act Three: No. 25 Conjurors Forgiven
- Act Three: No. 26 We Will Trust You as Our Leader
- Act Three: No. 27 A Real Slow Drag
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I really wanted to like this, but ...
Helpful Votes: 11 out of 16 total.
Review Date: 2004-05-05
Review Date: 2004-05-05
Treemonisha is unique
Helpful Votes: 14 out of 14 total.
Review Date: 2004-11-16
Review Date: 2004-11-16
I already have the Houston Treemonisha on vinyl but after sixteen years it is likely to deteriorate so I bought the CD too.
Treemonisha is not grand opera in the traditional sense; it is not a ragtime opera; it isn't this, that or the other thing. It is itself, uniquely beautiful, profoundly moving and probably a work of genius. Surely we, as music lovers of the world, have matured beyond the compulsion to place every piece of music in a defining category. Some criticisms of Treemonisha I have read are little less absurd than admonishing the player of an Indian raga for not modulating according to sonata form. The disease is a product of too much learning and sadly afflicts talented professionals even more commonly than it does the man in the street.
The forces behind Treemonisha are very eloquently explained in the liner notes, and need no further elaboration. The love and regard for the music by those producing and performing it is abundantly obvious. The technical quality of the recording is excellent and the notes provide even the most naive listener (and Treemonisha is superbly naive in the best sense of the word) with everything necessary in the way of background.
A review cannot influence a prejudiced mind. This work, if any, is a prime candidate for Debussy's maxim - just listen, it is enough.
Treemonisha is not grand opera in the traditional sense; it is not a ragtime opera; it isn't this, that or the other thing. It is itself, uniquely beautiful, profoundly moving and probably a work of genius. Surely we, as music lovers of the world, have matured beyond the compulsion to place every piece of music in a defining category. Some criticisms of Treemonisha I have read are little less absurd than admonishing the player of an Indian raga for not modulating according to sonata form. The disease is a product of too much learning and sadly afflicts talented professionals even more commonly than it does the man in the street.
The forces behind Treemonisha are very eloquently explained in the liner notes, and need no further elaboration. The love and regard for the music by those producing and performing it is abundantly obvious. The technical quality of the recording is excellent and the notes provide even the most naive listener (and Treemonisha is superbly naive in the best sense of the word) with everything necessary in the way of background.
A review cannot influence a prejudiced mind. This work, if any, is a prime candidate for Debussy's maxim - just listen, it is enough.
Why pay more for the box?
Helpful Votes: 2 out of 4 total.
Review Date: 2006-05-28
Review Date: 2006-05-28
This is a wonderful opera and a pretty good execution, but why pay 50% more for this edition? It was made from the same recording
session as the 2005 reedition, ASIN B00099BPNI, and I cannot hear the slightest difference. As far as I can see, one is paying
only for a fancier box.
Before Porgy there was Treemonisha
Helpful Votes: 2 out of 2 total.
Review Date: 2005-12-04
Review Date: 2005-12-04
I got this from the library and spent much of last night and this morning listening to this. I LOVE it! While the music beautifully
combines the standards of grand opera with the folk music of Black America, the story, in a way, is timeless.
Just about everybody in the opera is poor, so I would disagree that the play reflects classism as one reviewer has stated. Bascially, the "Conjurers" (salesmen of good luck charms) exploit the beliefs of their fellow poor Blacks, and they see the educated Treemonisha as a threat to their livelihood, and the story deals with this conflict. This could be adaptable to any people at any time in place (witness the political and religious charlatans of our own time and their attempts to incite the public against those who threaten to expose them).
But overall, I like the fact that for 1911, this is quite progressive in that a teenage girl (Treemonisha) who grows up poor, Black, and adopted is the heroine with leadership potential. The music and lyrics are quite uplifitng and amusing in spots, and the story is pretty easy to follow (although one wonders about some padded segments as "Pastor Alltalk's sermon" and the dancing bears, whch has little to do with the story).
I would love to see a filmed or stage perfromance of this. Move over Porgy and Bess-if you liked that, check out the originator.
Just about everybody in the opera is poor, so I would disagree that the play reflects classism as one reviewer has stated. Bascially, the "Conjurers" (salesmen of good luck charms) exploit the beliefs of their fellow poor Blacks, and they see the educated Treemonisha as a threat to their livelihood, and the story deals with this conflict. This could be adaptable to any people at any time in place (witness the political and religious charlatans of our own time and their attempts to incite the public against those who threaten to expose them).
But overall, I like the fact that for 1911, this is quite progressive in that a teenage girl (Treemonisha) who grows up poor, Black, and adopted is the heroine with leadership potential. The music and lyrics are quite uplifitng and amusing in spots, and the story is pretty easy to follow (although one wonders about some padded segments as "Pastor Alltalk's sermon" and the dancing bears, whch has little to do with the story).
I would love to see a filmed or stage perfromance of this. Move over Porgy and Bess-if you liked that, check out the originator.
Joplin's Treemonisha
Helpful Votes: 5 out of 5 total.
Review Date: 2008-02-14
Review Date: 2008-02-14
Scott Joplin (1867/68 -- 1917) was one of the earliest composers with the ambition of combining African-American and classical
musical forms. He is best-known for his ragtime compositions for the piano, but he also worked in more ambitious genres. By
1910, Joplin had composed his second opera, "Treemonisha". (The score of an earlier opera, "Guest of Honor" has been lost.)
He spent much of the rest of life in an unsuccessful attempt to have Treemonisha staged and performed. The opera lay dormant
until the mid-1970s when with the revival of interest in ragtime, Treemonisha was staged and performed by the Houston Lyric
Opera Company and received a posthumous Pulitzer Prize in 1976. Treemonisha was made into a movie and presented on television
but, unfortunately, it has again largely faded from public sight. The work receives performances from time to time by music
festivals and schools and by small opera companies.
Joplin wrote the libretto as well as the music for Treemonisha. The story is set around 1884 in a rural African American community near Texarkana, Arkansas. (Just before my rehearing of Treemonisha, I passed through Texarkana on the train en route to Dallas.) The story shows Joplin's vision of how rural African Americans could advance after the Civil War by combatting superstition and by hard work, good leadership, and, most of all, a commitment to education. Importantly, Joplin's story teaches the virtue of forgiveness and of not holding grudges.
The heroine of the opera is an 18 year old woman, Treemonisha, who had been found as an infant under a tree and raised as a daughter by Monisha and her husband Ned. Monisha and Ned sent Treemonisha to a white woman for education, as the community had no schools, and Treemonisha returns as the only member of the community who can read and write. As the opera opens, Treemonisha foils the efforts of a conjurer, Zodzetrick, to sell a "bag of luck" to Monisha. In response, the connjurers kidnap Treemonisha and are about to throw her into a wasp nest when she is rescued by a townsman, Remus, disguised as a scarecrow. The conjurers in turn are captured by field workers and taken to the town where at Treemonisha's urging, they are forgiven and released. Treemonisha is acknowledged as the leader of the community and she and Monisha lead the people in a ragtime dance "Marching Onward".
This 2-CD set of "Treemonisha" on Deutsche Gramophon was first released in 1976 with the initial enthusiasm over the opera and reissued in 2005 at a budget price. Gunther Schuller, who orchestrated Joplin's piano score, conducts with Carmen Balthorp singing the role of Treemonisha and Betty Allen singing Monisha.
With its music and storyline, the opera is a mixed success. The most successful numbers are those in which Joplin stays closest to a folk idiom, particularly the finale, "A Real Slow Drag" ("Marching Onward"), the conclusion to Act II, "Aunt Dinah has Blowed de Horn", the Ring Dance "We're Going Around" from Act I, and the number for a well-meaning but shallow itinerant preacher, Parson Alltalk, "Good Advice" from Act I. I thought the Prelude to Act III also worked well as a musical number, while the overture to the entire opera was less successful. Many of the remaining numbers, for Monisha and for male soloists Remus and Ned, seem to be based more closely on European opera. Joplin composed some lovely music in these sections, but they lack the spontaniety and verve of the dances and the more folkish sections of the score.
Treemonisha remains a landmark in American Opera, and Joplin's intended crowning achievement of his career. The opera's vision of uplift and forgiveness remains inspiring, even with the crudeness of the plot. Joplin's life goal of raising African American music to the stature of American classic was realized in part by his opera. An understanding of Treemonisha is essential to understanding Joplin's artistic aims and his achievement. It is fortunate that this recording of Treemonisha is available in this set and on a budget-priced DG set to introduce the listener to Joplin's opera.
Robin Friedman
Joplin wrote the libretto as well as the music for Treemonisha. The story is set around 1884 in a rural African American community near Texarkana, Arkansas. (Just before my rehearing of Treemonisha, I passed through Texarkana on the train en route to Dallas.) The story shows Joplin's vision of how rural African Americans could advance after the Civil War by combatting superstition and by hard work, good leadership, and, most of all, a commitment to education. Importantly, Joplin's story teaches the virtue of forgiveness and of not holding grudges.
The heroine of the opera is an 18 year old woman, Treemonisha, who had been found as an infant under a tree and raised as a daughter by Monisha and her husband Ned. Monisha and Ned sent Treemonisha to a white woman for education, as the community had no schools, and Treemonisha returns as the only member of the community who can read and write. As the opera opens, Treemonisha foils the efforts of a conjurer, Zodzetrick, to sell a "bag of luck" to Monisha. In response, the connjurers kidnap Treemonisha and are about to throw her into a wasp nest when she is rescued by a townsman, Remus, disguised as a scarecrow. The conjurers in turn are captured by field workers and taken to the town where at Treemonisha's urging, they are forgiven and released. Treemonisha is acknowledged as the leader of the community and she and Monisha lead the people in a ragtime dance "Marching Onward".
This 2-CD set of "Treemonisha" on Deutsche Gramophon was first released in 1976 with the initial enthusiasm over the opera and reissued in 2005 at a budget price. Gunther Schuller, who orchestrated Joplin's piano score, conducts with Carmen Balthorp singing the role of Treemonisha and Betty Allen singing Monisha.
With its music and storyline, the opera is a mixed success. The most successful numbers are those in which Joplin stays closest to a folk idiom, particularly the finale, "A Real Slow Drag" ("Marching Onward"), the conclusion to Act II, "Aunt Dinah has Blowed de Horn", the Ring Dance "We're Going Around" from Act I, and the number for a well-meaning but shallow itinerant preacher, Parson Alltalk, "Good Advice" from Act I. I thought the Prelude to Act III also worked well as a musical number, while the overture to the entire opera was less successful. Many of the remaining numbers, for Monisha and for male soloists Remus and Ned, seem to be based more closely on European opera. Joplin composed some lovely music in these sections, but they lack the spontaniety and verve of the dances and the more folkish sections of the score.
Treemonisha remains a landmark in American Opera, and Joplin's intended crowning achievement of his career. The opera's vision of uplift and forgiveness remains inspiring, even with the crudeness of the plot. Joplin's life goal of raising African American music to the stature of American classic was realized in part by his opera. An understanding of Treemonisha is essential to understanding Joplin's artistic aims and his achievement. It is fortunate that this recording of Treemonisha is available in this set and on a budget-priced DG set to introduce the listener to Joplin's opera.
Robin Friedman

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1. The libretto is really dreadful. This is by the composer, so he has no one else to blame. What's wrong with it? Not only is it stilted and false (as Joplin's music NEVER is) not only is the storyline puerile, but there is a strong streak of patronising condecension from the comparitively successful, educated, middle class Joplin towards "ignorant" and "superstitious" working class blacks. I find this particularly inexcusable in Joplin's case, even considered in the light of the times.
2. Generally the whole work shows poor to non-existent stagecraft. For instance, the plot is largely driven by long extended semi-recitative narrative numbers. These drag unbearably when listened to on a recording, although they may work better in a theatre I can see an audience getting lost there, too. Of course if Joplin had received a more sympathetic hearing from the highly prejudiced musical establishment of his day, and had a chance for a proper rehearsal process, he would probably have fixed a lot of this - to be fair he had little or no theatrical experience - but then we have to assess the work as we have it, rather than what might have been.
3. Finally, while the music certainly has its moments - even at its best there is little of the joyous spirit of the great rags. Joplin seems to have been over-intent on producing "serious" music, to the extent of suppressing the best of his own genius.
I am STILL glad I bought this recording - if only because it is such an important historical document. I just wish I really enjoyed listening to it. Perhaps it will grow on me - certainly I will have to give it a chance.
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Revisiting this review - I have had the chance to listen to this a few times since my original review, and while I basically stand by most of what I said then it HAS grown on me a little. One or two of the songs in particular.
I now tend to agree (at least in part) with some other reviewers that this work is totally unique, and that (at least by implication) it should not be judged by the standards of anything else. I may have taken it just a little too earnestly on my first attampt to come to grips with it.